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Каин · 6 ноя 2020

Видимо, запостили раньше времени, но интернет помнит. Хотя никакой конкретики нет.

GameCentral reviews the PS5 hardware and software, including how it compares to the Xbox Series X in terms of value for money.

There are many that believe this will be the last generation of video game consoles. That once the PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X reach the end of their natural life, in six or so years, there’ll no longer be a need for local hardware because it’ll be possible to stream video games onto any device you want. You’ll still need a controller but the idea of a big plastic box sitting under your TV is probably going to seem very old fashioned in a decade or two.

They’ve never admitted it in so many words but that certainly seems to be what Microsoft thinks, as they continue to experiment with cloud streaming and position Xbox Series X/S as merely one outlet amongst many for the Xbox experience. They surely would’ve preferred to have some exclusive games ready for the Xbox Series X launch but the fact that they see its almost non-existent games line-up as a non-fatal problem shows just how different a game they’re playing to Sony.

Microsoft has been forced along a different path by the failure of the Xbox One but considering the overwhelming success of the PlayStation 4 it’s unsurprising that Sony is less eager to shift paradigms. That may cost them in the long run, but it does mean that at launch the PlayStation 5 is a significantly more interesting prospect than the Xbox Series X/S.

One of our main complaints about the Xbox Series X is that it just doesn’t feel like a new console, let alone the most powerful one ever made. The dashboard is the same, the controller is virtually the same, and all the games are the same as those that are already out. The PlayStation 5 though is the exact opposite, in that it is clearly very different from the PlayStation 4, while still maintaining backwards compatibility.

The PlayStation 5, as is by now well established, is gigantic and although we’re beginning to turn against the design of the machine (in total darkness it still gives off too much light) it is at least something new.

Rather than what it looks like, the most important hardware question for the PlayStation 5 is how much noise it makes, given how distractingly loud the fan got with its predecessor. We’ve not got all the launch games in yet to test but nothing so far has caused it to make any unusual amount of noise. It seems to be at least as quiet as the Xbox Series X, with both being effectively silent when you’re sitting at a normal distance from the console.

Although some elements are still similar, the user interface has been streamlined and reorganised, so that everything’s laid out a bit more logically and there are more interactive elements. The most obvious of these are the Activities cards which highlight individual quests or collectables in a game, acting as a sort of bookmark but also providing advice, including video clips, on how to beat the section or obtain the item.

Like the Xbox Series X, the PlayStation 5 is also able to quick resume a game if you turn it off and come back to it later. Although the Switcher icon that some noticed on the Home menu is basically just a history button, showing you the last few games or apps that you used and starting them up from scratch if you want to play them again.

Sony has spent quite a bit of time promoting the PlayStation 5’s new 3D sound system but nothing we’ve experienced so far seems particularly extraordinary, whether using headphones or not. Instead, the most impressive aspect of the PlayStation 5 hardware is the new DualSense controller, which is a major improvement on the DualShock 4 and a definite rival for the Xbox as the best gamepad ever.

The fact that the analogue sticks are still level with each other, like the DualShock, still feels like a decision made for branding reasons rather than practical ones, but otherwise it’s a very solid gamepad with a nice heft, perfect weight, and a built-in microphone. The vertical edges of the touchpad do light up but, unlike the much hated lightbar, they don’t reflect in the TV screen and we never noticed them – or the light showing when you have the microphone switched off – while we were playing.

What makes the DualSense feel so next gen though is the extremely versatile new force feedback, which is used to simulate everything from the pitter patter of rain on your head to different surfaces you walk over, from grass to volcanic rock. Even better than that is the adaptive triggers, which depending on the game can either vibrate or offer resistance, acting like a clutch or a trigger or giving the impression of pulling an arrow across a bow before firing it.

We’re sure some will dismiss these tricks as a gimmick, but they’ve only added to the immersion in the games we’ve played. And while launch games usually use such features in the most obnoxious and overbearing way possible everything so far has been remarkably restrained and only used to good purpose.

In terms of graphical power, the tech specs suggest that the PlayStation 5 is slightly less powerful than the Xbox Series X, while its SSD is faster. Since there’s no game that is even close to pushing the capabilities of the Xbox Series X there’s no way to demonstrate that yet, and in any case we’re only able to talk about Astro’s Playroom and Spider-Man: Miles Morales at the moment – but both those games are far more impressive, and interesting, than anything we’ve seen on the Xbox Series X.

We don’t have Demon’s Souls in yet, which looks to be the most technically capable of the launch titles, but there’s literally no comparison with the Xbox and PlayStation 5 line-up given Microsoft’s complete reliance on cross-gen games and older Xbox One titles.

Sony were clearly planning to have even more ready for the PlayStation 5’s launch, with Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart using every trick in the console’s book but now delayed until early next year. There are rumours that Gran Turismo 7 is relatively imminent too, as presumably is Horizon Forbidden West – given it’s also being released on PlayStation 4.

The PlayStation 5 is an impressive console and while many of its features, such as fast loading and the ability to run games at native 4K or 60fps, are replicated by the Xbox Series X the superior games line-up and the new features of the DualSense stand above anything Microsoft is offering so far.

All of which brings us back to the same question we asked at the end of the Xbox Series X review, is the console any good and is it worth getting this year?

On that first point the PlayStation 5 is clearly a very capable machine and generally good value for money – especially the Digital Edition which is £90 cheaper and yet the only difference is no disc drive. In terms of games we’d advise waiting until all the reviews are in, but this seems very likely to be the strongest launch line-up of any PlayStation console (even if that’s not actually a very high bar).

The biggest issue with the PlayStation 5 at the moment is simply the cost of the games. £70 for most of the first party titles almost seems like a purposeful counter to the excellent value for money offered by Game Pass and may go down as a critical home goal for Sony.

The situation in terms of pricing and subscriptions is almost certain to change over the course of the generation, for both consoles, but while we can’t predict the future we can tell you that right now the PlayStation 5 is an excellent console and well worth getting as soon as you can afford it.
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Medeival · 6 ноя 2020

- 70 фунтов за игру: Ни у одной консоли нет преимуществ, которые бы заставили платить столько.

nitrogen14 · 6 ноя 2020

я себе заказал киберпанк за 30евро через аргентину. платить больше не готов, надоело.
а за паука 60€ платить вообще клиника
78€ demon souls
https://www.mediamarkt.de/de/product/_japan-studio-bluepoint-games-demon-s-souls-2685509.html
мамаааааа

Каин · 6 ноя 2020

Куча обзоров, но я пока это гляну

vova · 6 ноя 2020

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П - программист. Нитроген, мне все непонятно, если брехать про професию, зачем выбирать ту, которая имеет отношение к ИТ и логике в целом, при этом писать такую хуйню как ты. Говорить, что ты успешный 40 летний программист в Германии, а потом сразу же обсираться жиденько путая Биты и Байты, а теперь и тут.
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Тебе какая разница кто он и что он. Не нравится, не комментируй его сообщения.
Мало ли какое говно вы пишите, я же не возмущаюсь ))

Поясняю мою позицию. Забаню всех, кто провоцирует нитрогена и самого нитрогена. И не надо жалобы кидать))

Каин · 6 ноя 2020

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П - программист. Нитроген, мне все непонятно, если брехать про професию, зачем выбирать ту, которая имеет отношение к ИТ и логике в целом, при этом писать такую хуйню как ты. Говорить, что ты успешный 40 летний программист в Германии, а потом сразу же обсираться жиденько путая Биты и Байты, а теперь и тут.
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У форума есть функция игнора.

dimm · 6 ноя 2020

Rather than what it looks like, the most important hardware question for the PlayStation 5 is how much noise it makes, given how distractingly loud the fan got with its predecessor. We’ve not got all the launch games in yet to test but nothing so far has caused it to make any unusual amount of noise. It seems to be at least as quiet as the Xbox Series X, with both being effectively silent when you’re sitting at a normal distance from the console.
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Только слабей и в два раза больше бокса

What makes the DualSense feel so next gen though is the extremely versatile new force feedback, which is used to simulate everything from the pitter patter of rain on your head to different surfaces you walk over, from grass to volcanic rock. Even better than that is the adaptive triggers, which depending on the game can either vibrate or offer resistance, acting like a clutch or a trigger or giving the impression of pulling an arrow across a bow before firing it.
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Ну ессесенно, что же еще форсить-то. То что импульсные триггеры у боксопада с 2013 года уже забыли, то что Haptiс у Сыча с 2017 тоже, но ДуалСенс это конечно революция Имульсные триггеры это не то, скажите вы? И будете правы, у майков полноценные force-feedback контроллеры появились 25 лет назад ))) Всё это гиммики, которые никому даром не нужны (как тачпанель и неотключаемый фонарик в DS4), так, максимум побаловаться месяц-другой.

Молодцы MS, что соблюдают традиции и не портят то, что уже реально хорошо робит. Привычный и быстрый интерфейс (супер кастомизируемый под все хотелки), самый удобный пад и самая большая мощь под капотом. И недорогой бюджетный варик в виде эски.

Redeemer · 6 ноя 2020

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Так это же удел слабых духом. У нас тут таких неженок не водится почти.

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Забаню всех
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А пупок-то не развяжется?

nitrogen14 · 6 ноя 2020

инетересно посмотреть на демон соулс по обратке с улучшайзерами, может версию пс5 без ретрейсинга уделает

dimm · 6 ноя 2020

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инетересно посмотреть на демон соулс по обратке с улучшайзерами
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Может Dark Souls?

dimm · 6 ноя 2020

Еще немного обзорчиков:

nitrogen14 · 6 ноя 2020

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Может Dark Souls?
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демонские души же выходят по цене нексгена.

я вроде как 2й резидент римейк за 40 евро брал на страте

dimm · 6 ноя 2020

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демонские души же выходят по цене нексгена.
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Демоны выходили на PS3, а PS5 ее не поддерживает, и их не было на XBOX. Что ты сравнивать собрался?

nitrogen14 · 6 ноя 2020

запарился, чет подумал обратки нет ток для пс1 и 2. сорян, тут и 3я не канает.
пора в геймпас эмулятор пс1-3 выпускать

https://www.amazon.de/Sony-DualSens...Q86SEE7TGYYN&refRID=FCW8PMCQQ86SEE7TGYYN&th=1

думал наушники взять потестить. на амзоне только геймпад можно предзаказать.
муть какаято..

Каин · 6 ноя 2020

nitrogen14 · 6 ноя 2020

по видео с загрузками нихрена не понял. как это работает?
охото увидеть вменяемый тест загрузка игры пс4 про с ссд и пс5 и также с боксом, чтоб увидеть наксолько внутренний ссд быстрее отстойных пастгеновских

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Какие-то странные результаты. Где-то плойка в три раза быстрее, где-то бокс в 4 )))

Каин · 6 ноя 2020

Про заряд ДуалЧленса

PushSquare
results in the battery life averaging around six to seven hours on a full charge
The Verge
I was able to get around 6–7 hours of playtime on a charge
IGN
I’ve found a full charge lasts around 10 to 13 hours
Press Start
seems to last between 5-7 hours
ArsTechnica
10 hours or so of gameplay on a single full charge of the DualSense controller while playing Spider-Man: Miles Morales, give or take. That number goes way down when playing a game like Astro’s Playroom
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Shizo · 6 ноя 2020

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Что они блять там с ним делают, что уже второе поколение подряд с такой недолгой продолжительностью заряда? В DS4 тоже было 5-6 часов на одной зарядке. Там списывали на подсветку, тут вроде подсветку сделали минималистической. Почему блять джои от Xbox с АА батарейками работают по 30-35 часов, а тот же Elite 2 со встроенным аккумулятором живет все 40 часов. Даже у Нинтендо их Про Джой живет часов 20-30 от одной зарядки вроде.

Каин · 6 ноя 2020

Если коротко (DF)

Very strong UI, quick, plus 4K/HDR
New system wide settings
Rest mode extraordinarily efficient using only 1.5w
Runs cooler than Series X
Very quiet
Has HDMI 2.1 but presently missing a few features, plus no 1440p output
Max power draw so far is Miles Morales at 200w (less than Gears 5 on XSX, and only slightly higher than God of War on PS4 Pro)
DualSense feels revolutionary
3D audio interesting and additive, not a game changer
667 GB of usable storage
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