Сравнение мультиплатформенных игр

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Так сразу бы и купил, понятно что щас уже под это поколение точить будут. Олдген уже не в приоритете.

 

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Так сразу бы и купил

Я ждал FH5. Чота я и забыл, что купил ХОХ 4 года назад. Это уже реально олдген. Сука стоил 40 000...

 

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Hunt: Showdown обновили (Update 1.7) для Xbox Series S/X/PS5 до 60fps, сравнение олдгена (не помню было-ли оно здесь):

 

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- Frame rate and stability aren't exactly where they should be.
- Both PS5/Series X turn in a full 4K with dynamic resolution.
- Lowest counted during tested areas were 1800p on PS5 and 2016p on SX.
- Series S has typical pixel count of 1296p with a low of 1080p (I'm guessing the highest is 1440p ?)
- SSR and AO can look a bit messy on Series S.

- Modes with 64 players or below can run with a flat 60 FPS with occasional 1 frame drops on all consoles.
- In the 128 player modes, somewhat frequent dips on all consoles
- Generally 60 FPS with worst readouts in mid to low 50s.
- However the main issue lies with the unpredictable frame time spikes which can often go in the 100s of MS.

- The best way to remedy is to download the PS4 and XBO versions on either next-gen consoles. You get lesser player count on all the maps with 128 players, but none of the spike issues.
- SX version is not smart delivery so you can individually download the XBO version.

- "Rubber banding" issue familiar to series fans from BF3 is still present. Again, it comes and goes on unpredictable basis.
- DF also touches on some of the bugs seen in their testing (loadout disappearing, loading maps where they can't spawn etc).

 

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• native Series and PS5
• native 60fps
• 2.65s loading on PS5. 15.20s on backwards compatible
• 4-5s for Series
• same texture and object draw, better AF
• Series S is dynamic 1440p, scales on horizontal axis
• Series X is dynamic 2160p, horizontal scaling
• alpha is 66% of 4k
• PS5 is fixed 2160p
• alpha is full res
• PS5 is nearly perfect, dragon fights drops around 50fps
• PS4 version is now 60fps
• no haptic feedback or adaptive triggers
• Series has fewer drops when fighting dragons

 

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MATRIX UE5 Demo:

• 50-70 people worked on this
• made to tackle criticisms of previous demos (small area, lack of interactivity, ROCKS)
• uses hardware accelerated Lumen
• Lumen is ray traced and screen space
• nanite for skinned geo is still work in progress
• car deformation switches cars from nanite to more regular geometry
• chain link fences are actually geometry!
• the most important aspect of Nanite is probably the reduction of pop-in
• the open world demo will be available on pc as a UE5 project
• world partition used to stream in the open world
• zones of the city is streamed it via world partition and it's how they populate the world
• the city is generated as a point cloud in Houdini
• the point cloud is then imported into UE5 and the point cloud data to build the world
• devs were regenerating the world up to twice a week, right up to the finishing of the project
• virtual shadow maps and area light shadows
• Keanu and Carrie Ann Moss were scanned
• and player pedestrians made using metahuman
• the scene with Laurence Fishbourne and two Keanus is a mix of stock footage and digital
• the army of Carrie Anns was video because of performance, but was rendered in Unreal
• John appreciates the integration of video and render
• made them a new AI system, cars and pedestrians represented as points
• AI updates based on the distance from the camera
• pedestrians and AI are persistent
• the shooting segment's destruction was driven by the Chaos Physics system in real time
• cares are 3 nanite zones, when collision happens, one of the zones is replaced with a deformable mesh, does have a performance cost
• Chaos also used for cloth
• the recreation of the famous bullet time scene used the original character model from the movie
• the bridge destruction scene was video for performance reasons
• lumen gets ride of the "ue4 look"
• in general, the "ue4 look" is gone due to reduction of bloom
• temporal super resolution works on every system
• demo is dynamic resolution, but always scales up to 2160p
• not DLSS level due to the lack of hardware
• TSR works very well
• native 4K ain't a panacea, just look at Forza Horizon 5
• shimmering effect around the main character due to reconstruction
• 24fps when they blend with cinematics
• gameplay is 30fps targeted
• frame pacing isn't great in 24fps segments, will be improved
• PS5 runs about 1fps better on average
• driving around cause slowdown when driving across zones
• faster the driving, the more the frame rate dips
• asset initialization is causing slowdown
• SSD is not affecting performance
• asset streaming isn't as much as you think
• Series S targets 1080p
• resolution based artifacts
• nanite might have some resolution scaling issues
• stutter between camera cuts, difficulty to count pixels due to a number of factors
• with TSR off, 1620p on both high end systems when not stressed
• Series S is 720p-ish
• internal res counting is for academics
• Series S to high end duo is like DVD to BluRay
• camera cut pause is due to the scene being in a different area and loading new data
• this isn't really done in other games
• shout out to all the "HT ray tracing is dead" journalists! yall wrong
• HW acceleration allows for deformable objects to contribute to ray bouncing
• higher fidelity asset tracing than sign distance field
• you can see indirect shadows in RT reflections
• HW RT in consoles increased performance of Lumen
• this demo is impossible on last gen machines due to memory, storage, gpu, etc
• VRR is recommended
• Alex thinks UE5 has to prove itself at 60fps with some of this tech
• it's not just a "turn off lumen to get 60fps"
• due to the lack of new rendering tech, there's a lot 60fps games; could change in the future as new rendering tech gets used in games
• 40fps on 120hz screens? viable
• DF has a precomiled Valley of the Ancients if you're a supporter, *wink wink*
• the demo shows that manpower is probably the limiting factor nowadays

 

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• RT reflections, only on high end devices
• looks great
• dynamic 4k (1620p-2160p), 30fps
• RT is in every scene, so resolution can jump to 4K
• the perfect mirror in Starlord's room doesn't use RT
• cubemap fallback
• TAA makes 1620p nearly indistinguishable
• ambient occlusion is of lower quality in RT mode
• there's no difference in consoles
• consoles match PC's high RT setting
• consoles don't have transparent reflections
• Series S has a frame rate toggle
• unlocked framerate gets up to 60, but not during combat or cutscenes
• if you don't have a VRR displace, keep the lock on
• RT mode is a near locked 30, only drops when using Starlord's visor
• no real point to Quality Mode now
• performance mode still has drops in combat
• one of the best RT Reflection implementations on consoles like DMC5

 

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• Framerate is tied to dynamic resolution scaling with no way to turn it off unless using mods.
• Some texture options are very lack luster and don't add much to the visuals.
• High end systems have frametime issues
• DX12 seems to be the cause of major frametime issues.
• Running the game in forced DX11 seems to fix most frametime issues, still not a perfect solution. Some frametime issues still exist, but the FPS is significantly improved.
• 30FPS mode has frametime issues too, so putting that on won't help.
• Running DX11 breaks the vsync but can be enabled at the driver level.

 

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Спойлер

• on paper the One X's gpu > Series S's gpu; more memory and higher bandwidth
• however Series S cpu > One X's cpu, so One X is limited to 30fps but at higher resolutions
• Guardians of the Galaxy
  • Series S - 1080p/30, better shadows and textures
  • One X - 1440p-1890p/30
• Forza Horizon 5
  • SS - 1440p/30 or 1080p/60 (both dynamic); 4x msaa; quality has higher object detail
  • OX - 2160p/30 (dynamic), 4x msaa; object detail similar to performance mode on SS
• Halo Infinite
  • SS - 1080p, 30 or 60; 30fps has framepacing issues
  • OX - 2160p/30 or 1440p/60; 30fps has framepacing issues, 60fps has framerate drops
• Far Cry 6
  • SS - 1224p/60fps, dynamic
  • OX -2160p30fps, dynamic
• CoD Vanguard
  • SS - 1440p/60 or 1080p/120, dynamic,
  • OX - 2160p/60, dynamic, lots of visual effects downgraded; cutscenes are 40-50
• CoD Warzone
  • SS - 1080p/60, actually Xbox One mode
  • OX - 2160p/60, dynamic, actually 45-55
• Cyberpunk
  • SS - 1080p-1440p/30, better pedestrian density
  • OX - 1440p/30, driving dials fps to low 20s
• Metro Exodus
  • SS - 1080p/60 (lower internal res), full ray traced GI
  • OX - 2160/30
• pretty even so far for Oliver
• loading (OX HDD, OX SSD, SS)
  • Vanguard: 24.4, 11.8, 3.5
  • FH5: 85.5, 42.9, 24.3
  • Halo: 61.3, 27.8, 14.1
  • the Ascent: 128.9, 30.8, 30.3
• Backwards Compatibility
  • Final Fantasy 13 -
    • SS - 1152p, 2x msaa
    • OX - 1728p, 2x msaa
  • Mirrors Edge
    • SS - 1440p/60, has drops
    • OX - 2160p/30
  • Series S has Auto HDR, better loading, and 60fps on some 360 games
  • some One series games don't have One X enhancements on Series
  • Doom 2016
    • SS - 1080p
    • OX - 2160p
  • Red Dead Redemption 2
    • SS - 864p
    • OX - 2160p
  • Far Cry 4
    • SS - 60
    • OX - high res, 30
  • Prey
    • SS - 60
    • OX - high res, 30
• One X is better with older games
• Series S has some fps boost for some games, faster load times, also has new hardware features
• One X is competitive in recent titles and very much in older titles, but will struggle more with 60fps
• One X will be unsupported eventually while Series S will be support alongside the Series X

 

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Спойлер

• menus work good with m&k and controller
• DX11, no shader compilation waits, or compilation stutter as seen in DX12/Vulkan games
• no Field of View option, possibly due to a lot of off camera tricks
• nvidia reflex to reduce latency, avg 11ms less vs ps5
• PS5 controller mapping
• faster loading, ~4s faster over PS5
• possibly limited by ssd and framerate
• PS4P/PS5 (will call this PS5 from here on out) uses checkerboarding to achieve 4K
• constant camera sway and particles cause artifacts in checkerboarding
• high res and DLSS fixes this issue
• DLSS has better resolved than native at times
• DLSS Performance 4K (1080p internal) is better than PS5
• PS5 quality is called "Original"
• Shadows are the most obvious improvement, way less blobby at higher than original
• cascade range of shadows on ps5 is very short, on ultra, can cause a big difference in visuals in some scenes
• Geo Quality next most obvious improvement, less pop in
• high AO adds bounced lighting, similar to SSGI
• volume fog and screen space reflections is situational, increases resolution above original
  • PS5 looks softer than Original due to checkerboard rendering
• Optimized Settings (Ryzen 3600/RTX 2060 at 1080p)
  • high shadows
  • Ultra+ is very performance hungry, use high
  • high geo
  • original is good, high if you'd like
  • high AO
  • textures - depends on your vram, higher settings offer little improvement
    • Original for 6GB
    • anything higher for 8GB
  • Ultra anisotrophic filtering
• low end hardware (Ryzen 3600/GTX 1060/RX580)
  • very close to 60fps on a 1060
  • base PS4 can't hold a stable 30 in the same areas
  • 580 is very variable, can be close or very far below the 1060
  • 1080p/30 for 580 until fixes come
• mid range (2060 Super/5700, 1440p)
  • 2060S 17% faster
  • 5700 can hit below 60fps, frametime stutters, also on the 580
• cpu performance (Ryzen 3600/Core i9 10900K/RTX 3090, 540p)
  • internal cap at 160fps
  • 3600 is between 100-120fps in combat, can drop to close to 60fps in very short spikes
  • 10900K hits the cap most of the time, drops to 60fps in even less spikes
  • level loading causes gpu usage drops (still over 60fps), worse on lower end cpus than 10900K
    • at max settings, 4K DLSS Quality on 10900k/3090, loading areas can dip below 60fps
  • turn down shadows for better cpu performance
• resolution
  • has render scaling
  • use DLSS if you have and RTX card
    • 2060 at Original settings, 4K DLSS Performance hits 60fps nearly all the time
  • DLSS has artifacts with small elements like snow grains and far away foliage

 

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• uses the Kex4 engine
• PC uses Kex3 engine
• fov slider, hd textures options, TAA toggle, AO toggle, motion blur toggle (camera included), AF toggle, shadow maps toggle, film grain, dof toggle
• textures have HD or orignal options
• all light sources cast lights when shadow maps on
• dynamic resolution
  • Switch: 1080p/720p; scales as low as 50%
    • minimal settings keeps max res
    • TAA gives it that retro, n64 look
  • PS4/XBO: 1080p
  • Pro/X: 2160p
  • 5/Series X: native 2160p
• Switch and Optimized Settings
  • Nightdive is aware of issues and are being worked on
  • disabled settings: mostly 60fps, has some drops (possibly due to CPU/Bandwidth)
  • toggling options off then on fixes some issues
  • highest settings: frequent drops to the 50s
  • optimized settings (mostly 60fps)
    • TAA on
    • HD Textures on
    • Shadow Maps on
    • Film Grain on
    • AF x4
  • higher AF causes stutters, probably due to bandwidth
• XBO/PS4
  • practically perfect 60fps on highest settings
  • some aggressive DRS
  • turning off motion blur sustains higher resolution
• customizable controls and deadzones
• has right stick camera, though makes the game easy
• loading is fast (2 sec warps, 5 sec level transitions on switch)

 

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- Better LOD
- Better motion blur
- Less noisy shadows
- Clearer textures
- improved shading for some objects
- improved contrast
- better water reflections

 

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- One X / Pro run at PC's Medium preset equivalent.
- One and PS4 run at PC's Low present equivalent.

- Mid gens have improvements in lighting and AO.
- All last gen have less foliage density, no light bloom compared to newer consoles (PS5/SX)

- Base consoles: 864p.
- Mid gens: 1080p.
- No signs of DRS

- IQ looks very soft and blurry on base consoles owing to the low resolution and lower quality TAA.
- Mid gens have OK image quality but fall short of typical Pro/One X releases.

- Performance is quite strong.
- All consoles target 30 FPS, but can still drop frames but tear to compensate.
- PS4, Pro and One S suffer tearing and the odd frame drops, PS4 Pro suffers the most here.
- One X is rock solid 30 FPS in DF's testing.
- Above issues mostly relegated to the opening Forest area, once in the city, performance is pretty good across the board.

 

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